@CheerBear& @SGde3aI too have been wary of glossy quick fixes and buzzwords like mindfulness.

One thing that I like is that DBT tries to be comprehensive, detailed and thorough.  I get that there can be ulterior motives and big money when medicare partially funds many programs ... etc ... but if there are benefits I would like to know them.  We dont want to throw bubs out with the bathwater.

 @Phoenix_Rising  I think this thread is a fantastic idea, so when life stops interfering. I'd like to hear more of your discussions and examples.

I think @SGde3a point of the limit in crafting our own emotion is very relevant. There are realities outside our experience that matter.

Sometimes too much self control can be pathological or interpreted by others in social settings as showing insuficient enthusiasm or effort.  I have been seen like that .. and then some dude thinks he has a right to play resident stirrer.  Cept for as a lil ole lady I am wising up to those dudes and dish it up back to them.  Not sure if Martha met as many stirrers as we have here in our country.  Maybe we can copyright a new improved Aussie version.

Social settings are always made up by different individuals and are rarely completely static.

Sorry I waffle on ...