Thanks @Faith-and-Hope

I think my mother had a co-dependent MI of some kind - and my sister either inherited it or copied it - but talk about carrying the problem down for another generation - wow - and like you - I look back up the tree and remember what I heard said when I was a child - yes - it comes down from our ancestors

Is there anyway out? Probably not - like you said - you can only choose your own behaviour and deal with details as they work their way out. Do you have any idea what set WH off? I know he was over-weight and a workaholic but there must have been something before that - there is no need to answer that - just say if you have any idea what came before the horse - so to speak

What a puzzle - 

Dec

Oh yes - I do pinch your pics now and again - esp our owl-meme - but here's one of mine