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@Owlunar  – so sorry to hear you had a difficult experience with a therapist on Friday and that it has impacted out significantly. Also that you found the guidelines and this hard to read in that moment.. Really glad to hear you were able to ring Lifeline and talk about it here.

@TheVorticon & @Fredd50 – definitely agree with you that it can be hard to understand how that guideline was interpreted in that way. But that’s is why we are taking action - I think it does just come back to how broad it was so there was so much room to make different meanings depending on your own experiences.

Also on the point why they are called guidelines rather than rules, I think the thinking is that because they were co-designed by the community and are updated and changed based on what the community consensus is. They do evolve over time (right now being an example of this).

Thank you everyone we will be taking all feedback on board. We are in agreement with everything that’s been stated here in this thread. We are working hard to stay across the latest developments in the sector and also improve how we moderate. We are not aiming to remove posts that discuss negative experiences seeking help, abuse or trauma because that's what they are talking about. That is why we are updating the guidelines. There are also other guidelines that will still be relevant on these sorts of posts such as the graphic detail guidelines – IE the need to minimise the method of abuse to help avoid triggering others but instead talk in general terms about method. But in our review we found out that some were interpretting the guideline above to mean that there could be no critique of help options..

Thank you again to everyone this consultation will be open until tomorrow morning.