Coming to terms with reality

[Former-Member]

back again....have been outside in the glorious sun working in the garden...pruning and weeding

definitely helps lift my mood....thoughts still flash through mind...working on observing them and sorting out what I need to think more about and what  is just negative programmed thinking...a never ending work in progress

this programmed thinking of course applies to everyone regardless of their mental health...I keep on reminding myself this and that tends to take a huge pressure off providing relief for any lingering anxiety

@eudemonism I wrote a lengthy response to you earlier this morning and it disappeared into cyberspace..

Well my friend you have nothing to apologise for on this forum....you have said nothing upsetting or patronising I think you might have mentioned that before

there are no judgements here either....we all have our own issues...our own ways of responding unique to every single human being

I think that you are still progressing...I certainly read that in between the lines...that is a good point that you have raised though because often we cannot see this ourselves...we are so  bogged down trying to deal with every thought that comes into our heads...I think the expression is can't see the wood for the trees

I like your mindset of putting healthy food into your body,,,,,exercising....spending time with your dog who can give you so much love....pets are amazing..your list of future purchases that can be broken down into achievable goals

your listening to your thoughts and working through them...that takes great courage and strength as well as insight...you are doing so much better than you think

a desire to be a writer and musician....wow.....you must be good at journalling then....Vanessa wrote down only positive stuff I think from memory....a good idea..I have done journalling in the past and tended to write down the stuff that was bothering me....upsetting me which also helped....then I could compare at a later time...problem with that though was it also depressed me so would have been better if I wrote it down to get it out of my head and then tore it up when I finished...what are your thoughts on journalling?

hope that you have had a resourceful and relaxing day

will speak again

[Vanessa5]

Hi @Appleblossom,

I'm glad you have had a string of good days. One bad one is less than most people have in a week so good one you and good luck with the Royal Commission. Sounds intense. They are called for a very good reason though.

I too like Jung, especially the philosophy on why some men are violent i.e. because we are born with both male and feminine characteristics and men are taught to repress that causing a build up that can come out violently.

I'm not too much into Mysticism. I think there are some sides to the world we are better off not dabbling in. Some of the great thinkers were supposed to be part of the Rosy Cross and all that blah blah. I just enjoy reading about science, math and viewing art without worrying about all that secret society nonsense. Its about the knowledge and I have a fascination with symbolism too which helps.

I hope all goes well this week for you

@Vanessa5

[Vanessa5]

[A2Z]

Good Day @Vanessa5  @eudemonism @Former-Member @Adek @Appleblossom @Shaz51

Hope you get this message in good spirit. I had a good day could have been better if I could have got up with the alarm. So, I confess I lost the war to the devil of the sleep who takes away the life of the awake. 

God willing, I hope to jump out of bed with the alarm actually before the sunrise. I do not like going to bed mainly becasue it is such a war getting up. Some time I win and feel good about it the wholeday and I have more energy can do much more.

Today, it was really bad, It felt so bad, I felt my body was lifeless and I could not move at all. I was feeling my heart beat yet I thought I could be dead. As soon as the sun rise I can get up but this is not what I want then I feel like a looser. I hope to win one day. The feeling when I can get up is good. Any ideas what I could do to succeed over the devil? This is really bugging me.

I tell myself that I must get up to the alarm before I go to bet. Yet, I fail. God forgive me for my lack of will power to get up and strenthen me, amen.

I do hope there was an option that I could repond to separate post.

All the best to you all 🙂 Take care 

[Adek]

Agree with @Former-Member. Frankly speaking..reading your posts @eudemonism is like looking at pieces of the jigsaw puzzle of ourselves...myself. Thats why i always relate what you wrote.. to my experiences whenever i can and counter them with my own perspective.

Sometimes your posts struck me right on my face and left me dumbfounded. Sometimes it made me laugh..not at you or your post but on seeing how you have described me... unintentionally. The truth in your words simply undisguised..and i feel your sincerity in them. I must thank you for your insights which induced self reflection and introspection in others.

@A2Z...hehe..a scholar once gave a tip on waking up early..make sure u drank 2 litres the evening before. Yes to increase your metabolic rate, rejuvenate you skin, flush off salt and toxin and but most important ...u will wake up early to go to the loo ,,,,😁

[eudemonism]

Hi all! Don't have time to tag everyone.

Doctors appointment this morning. To get my jab. Took dog fora nice walk this morning. Sat on bench for awhile and just relaxed. Need to have breakfast. Shower. And possible to a quick sweep up before heading down the street. And a friend came round for coffee this morning. Got a call from another friend. And got antenna repair man coming around this afternoon.

Am frustrated with dog pulling on lead when walking and being a little defiant and disobedient. I try to look after him as best i can. He maybe just as frustrated with me. As i am with him.

Whales were out frolicking at a bay close to town yesterday. Thinking will go and havea look and get some photos.

Am thinking about writing doctor a letter. So they know whats going on. Where im at. And what im wanting to do. So they can best help me live the life i want to. And so its not focused around my illness.

Have great trouble waking up in the mornings and getting going. But usually gets better when the sun rises. Feeling very enthusiastic about producing some good music over the next few weeks.

Take care all. I hope the universe is good to all of you. Am reading all writing on the thread. It goes somewhere. But where exactly. I dont know.

[Former-Member]

hello @A2Z

you raise an interesting question

I am sure that most of us with symptoms of a mental illness/illnesses can relate to the dreaded getting out of bed in the morning. It can on some days seem like why bother? another day of feeling blech.....

I have surprised myself on occasions where I have fought to stay in bed longer....finally getting up feeling all the worst for laying there longer...on occasion falling into a deep sleep

For me if I lie in bed too long I arise with a heavy feeling around my eyes...almost like a hangover..I feel irritable, self-loathing ...............

medication can of course cause us to feel drowsy, heavy headed in the mornings

insomnia...well this one I know only too well

sleeping tablets

I have found if I have something to get up for I can do it. I always arose very early when working. When I have had to catch an early flight at the airport I can get up

early appointments....commitments to meet with family...friends

I was wondering if you planned something for tomorrow where you allow yourself time to get ready etc...do not focus too much on housework stuff...just getting ready to go out wherever...then  with that in mind set the alarm on mobile (I am assuming). I have also set 15 minute intervals as snooze can eventually be dismissed. The 15 minute interval alarms become annoying and I am by this time past wanting to stay in bed.

Different things will work differently for each of us

The biggest factor is our mindset of course. We have to want to do something about it.

good luck

let me know if it works and other options that you try

[Former-Member]

hello @Adek

I try to drink 1-2 glasses of water every night

my sleep is all over the place though so I am  the last person to listen to

lovely to read the impact the thread has had on you.......inner reflection can be so helpful in reminding us how far we have come....whilst at the same time being aware that they are only recalled memories not happening to us in the present

working through all of our weighted thoughts and recognising our feelings, reactions is progress as we are getting to know our inner selves.....learning more about who we are....this is part of my journey anyway

@eudemonism

you are organised this morning...up and about early....

I hope that you are going to  be gentle with yourself after having your injection today

your dog pulling on the leash sounds as though he is a very healthy, happy puppy. He clearly loves you. you can teach him in time by pulling him back to your side. always walk him on the same side of you. shorten the amount of his leash in your hand so that he cannot pull as far away ..still giving him enough room to walk comfortably. a slight pull back on the leash when he pulls too hard. let him know of course that he is good then.

I think that a letter to your doctor stating where you are now and your short term, long term aspirations is a brilliant idea. I know that my son did that when he was in his early 20's. His doctor was impressed and told him that he wrote articulately with clear goals. A very perceptive doctor.

as for where all of these words go...that made me smile ..thinking of all of the stuff I have lost in cyberspace

I like to think that the words are in a vessel ...here for anyone to read..for people to have a better understanding....to give hope....motivation.....comfort

anyone else want to share their thoughts

love the fact that you raise thought provoking ideas

wishing you all some calm moments

[Former-Member]

@eudemonism @Adek @A2Z @Appleblossom @Vanessa5

I do hope that you are aware that I always respond to you with the best intentions....hoping to let you realise that your posts have been read...you have been listened to...acknowledged...you are important

these are all extremely important reasons for me

so I ask myself am I responding in a way that helps you also?

what sort of response would benefit you most?

[eudemonism]

Tell us the stuff that works @Former-Member i like the two glasses of water before bed idea. Maybe that will make waking up easier. I've also read that Himalayan Salf and honey before bed helps the body recover for the next morning. I question if im better off sleeping in until the sun has risen. Or getting up and getting started at one of my awoken intervals through out the night. (Usually in the early am vicinity.